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Posted (Candy314) in Dating, Love, Relationships on August-24-2007

They say women like the bad boys. The guy that keeps us up crying in the middle of the night because we have no idea where they are. The guy who’s cell phone we wish we could check when it buzzes at all days and times of night. The guy who drinks too much and then stumbles into the house. Ladies, why do we do it to ourselves?

In the news recently, have been Amy Winehouse and Kate Moss. Both whose friends and families are hurt and upset because of their choices in men. Allegations recently have been that Amy’s new husband (of 3 months) has gotten her into drug abuse. Despite this, she remains loyal to him, refusing to go into rehab unless he accompanied her. Kate’s boyfriend has one foot in jail and the other out. These women make you want to bang their heads together. What is it about such highly successful women, who you’d think could have their pick of the fish in the sea that keeps them running back to such men? Neither women are stupid. But are both men equally smart? They both have something to gain from their famous significant others…

Could the appeal of these relationships be that they are so painful and destructive? Psychologists might agree that such cases are part of acting out of deep rooted self-hatred. People who engage in these types of relationship as a form of self-punishment do so usually in response to a notion of perceived personal failure. The fact that Kate and Amy are rich, talented and famous doesn’t matter - maybe, deep down, they don’t think they are worth being treated like a princess (every girl dreams of it…).

One way for women in such relationships to be able to remove themselves wholly from this situation is to address their underlying self-esteem issues through psychotherapy. This can be a long, drawn-out process and it’s frequently too painful for people to address what they have spent so long burying.

It’s no coincidence that both Amy and Kate have been associated with other self-destructive behaviors, such as alcohol or drug misuse. Their thought process is such that if someone else isn’t hurting them, they do it to themselves. These kinds of relationships are often also associated with co-dependency, whereby one person enters into a tumultuous relationship with another which they then become consumed by, rather than address their own problems.

This is a lesson for us all. We can never find someone suitable to love until we start to love ourselves. Maybe this is a lesson that we need to reiterate to both Amy and Kate. At this point, all their friends and families can do is hope this happens before things get any worse for them.



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taveren99 on August 28th, 2007 at 9:28 am #

As a male who’s seen his share of situations like this (I myself have been passed over for an asshole a couple of times lol), my thought is these women just simply RESPOND to these personality types. This idea is slightly different than responding to a jerk BECAUSE of issues of self worth–in other words they may not actually LIKE these guys or what they stand for (and they know they don’t), but they forego reason because of a simple biological response. That’s about the most sense i’m gonna make (lol), so I’ll stop there.

Candy314 on August 29th, 2007 at 10:42 am #

Thanks for the comment. I know I have done it before…I think all women tend to do it. (At least at some point in life) I think I am a woman with high self-esteem and of high self-worth. I still see friends that pass the great guy by to go out with the schmuck that treats them like crap. Who knows…maybe its just the life, love experiences that we must go through…
-Candy314

taveren99 on August 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pm #

You know what though? I see the jerk as a filter for the better guy. How does this woman react to the jerk? Does she go back and get another jerk, or is it a one time thing she learns from? The better girl will learn from that experience and use it to understand the good catch if a “great guy” is available. I tend to like older women because of their experience with this scenario.

Candy314 on August 30th, 2007 at 5:03 am #

I was engaged to the “jerk” and finally called it off…now I am engaged to the good guy! :-)

As for my friend, she still hasn’t learned her lesson and will continue to be with the jerk. One day, I hope she will wake up and see that its not the drama that makes the relationship a “relationship”.

Bam Sun on August 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm #

I really like this posting. And I hope that it makes some people, males and females, look at themselves.
This is a huge issue. I don’t care about Kate or Amy. But this is real problem for so many of us. And a good 70 to 80 percent of the women I’ve dealt with are like this. They don’t want to deal with any of the deep rooted issues that make them who they are. For me it’s painful to watch. But what can you do?
I’ve wasted a lot of my time trying to be therapist to someone who refused to believe they had any issues. And it gets old after a while.
In the end guys like me have to deal with the damamge that real bad boys cause real good girls (or they cause themselves). NO GOOD.

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